A lifetime lover of psychology, Conrad graduated with distinction receiving a master's degree in counseling psych. While working in the field as a crisis clinician, GI autoimmune disease interrupted every aspect of life. After years of hospitalizations, 3 major surgeries, abdominal nerve damage, and a still ongoing search for effective treatment, Conrad kept his sanity through tabletop RPGs. Using roleplaying as a means of redefining strength, sense of self, worth, and purpose he was able to find a positive outlook. Knowing the value and impact of RPGs, Conrad approached his friend of 20+ years, Nate Lindberg, about creating a show together to share the power of RPGs. Now Deges & Dragons educates how to play indie tabletop games and discusses their therapeutic benefits.